tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post1048078372284394011..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Scripture's Clarity Confirmed Against Smudges - 7/25Turretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-5896455648916178552010-04-26T18:07:33.019+01:002010-04-26T18:07:33.019+01:00Paul:
I'll respond once more, but I'm not...Paul:<br /><br />I'll respond once more, but I'm not sure I see the value of your continued participation here.<br /><br />"Sorry to spoil the fun, but again, Dave is right, though he is wrong to imagine that the Reformed tradition submits to the Bible by itself."<br /><br />Dave isn't right ... but the Reformed tradition also doesn't submit to the Bible by itself. Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-20797256971449959882010-04-26T17:31:01.255+01:002010-04-26T17:31:01.255+01:00Sorry to spoil the fun, but again, Dave is right, ...Sorry to spoil the fun, but again, Dave is right, though he is wrong to imagine that the Reformed tradition submits to the Bible by itself. <br /><br />The analogy to the Constitution is precisely spot on. That is why the Church needs judges and courts to interpret the Bible for the Church (WCF 31.3). "It belongeth to synods and councils ministerially to determine controversies of faith..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-32877296130113922132010-04-25T02:38:23.275+01:002010-04-25T02:38:23.275+01:00Not Bloghan,
If you think you can evade the probl...Not Bloghan,<br /><br />If you think you can evade the problem of interpretation by appealing to human authority you are wrong. There are no human authorities who do not contradict themselves (as Martin Luther noted popes and councils contradict) and those who follow human authorities have in my observation as much diversity of opinion as those who follow Scripture alone. The authority is in Mike Erich the Mad Theologianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682504413797395786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-26420416759418441182010-04-25T00:24:42.798+01:002010-04-25T00:24:42.798+01:00"Your appeal to scripture as the authority is..."Your appeal to scripture as the authority is code for us to understand the reality of the situation, which is the appeal to what you say scripture means."<br /><br />No. No code. We say what we mean and mean what we say. When we say "Scripture is our authority," that is exactly what we mean.<br /><br />"You can appeal to scripture as your rule all you want."<br />Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-41128455086525893732010-04-24T21:56:45.438+01:002010-04-24T21:56:45.438+01:00"The authority is Scripture."
Your appe..."The authority is Scripture."<br /><br />Your appeal to scripture as the authority is code for us to understand the reality of the situation, which is the appeal to what you say scripture means. You can appeal to scripture as your rule all you want. However, what you cannot do is say with certainty that you have applied the rule correctly.<br /><br />"a) I'm not a relativist. IAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-56889464284979982292010-04-24T19:41:27.944+01:002010-04-24T19:41:27.944+01:00"Based on your interpretation of scripture.&q..."Based on your interpretation of scripture."<br /><br />The authority is Scripture.<br /><br />"You can't tell me with any certainty that your interpretation is any more valid than mine."<br /><br />a) I'm not a relativist. I don't know whether you are.<br /><br />b) I'm content with having knowledge - not certainty - about many things.<br /><br />"The Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-65099948117133902572010-04-24T19:22:51.306+01:002010-04-24T19:22:51.306+01:00"Based on the Scripture's authority we re..."Based on the Scripture's authority we reject the false teachings of false teachers, including those of Rome."<br /><br />Turretinfan (aka Anonymous):<br /><br />Based on your interpretation of scripture. You can't tell me with any certainty that your interpretation is any more valid than mine. The most you can do is say that scripture is your rule, but you are the one applying Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-85593850950146480362010-04-24T14:00:45.114+01:002010-04-24T14:00:45.114+01:00"And since that is the case, by what authorit..."And since that is the case, by what authority would Turretinfan reject Catholic belief? Based upon his own authority which he in an assuming sort of way posits in scripture."<br /><br />Anonymous (aka Blogahon): <br /><br />Based on the Scripture's authority we reject the false teachings of false teachers, including those of Rome.<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-31814588072717593372010-04-24T04:14:56.087+01:002010-04-24T04:14:56.087+01:00Mike:
And since that is the case, by what authori...Mike:<br /><br />And since that is the case, by what authority would Turretinfan reject Catholic belief? Based upon his own authority which he in an assuming sort of way posits in scripture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-76003440171445001102010-04-24T01:49:05.966+01:002010-04-24T01:49:05.966+01:00It seems all these arguments have the same idea. I...It seems all these arguments have the same idea. If men cannot agree on what Scripture says, Scripture is not clear. Has it not occurred to the author of these comments that the problem could not be with the Scripture but with us, that we are sinners who are not willing in certain cases to hear want the Scripture has to say.Mike Erich the Mad Theologianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682504413797395786noreply@blogger.com