tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post2080540346659810374..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Unloading 35 Loaded Questions for "Bible Christians" 6/35Turretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-41276475553231434562010-01-15T18:45:03.603+00:002010-01-15T18:45:03.603+00:00John:
"Rather they took information from the ...John:<br />"Rather they took information from the same places everyone else did, and they wrote as normal people write, without any conscious knowledge that the Holy Spirit is whispering mystical knowledge in their ears."<br /><br />Well there were some places they were taken too, both Old Testament and New Testament Preachers, the selective few, that not everyone else were taken too, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-76187244392544722172010-01-15T18:18:34.590+00:002010-01-15T18:18:34.590+00:00John,
could you explain this further. Give us you...John,<br /><br />could you explain this further. Give us your understanding of what you mean when you write:<br /><br />"....That's the confidence they had in these traditions, that they are willing to thus bless them....".<br /><br />I suppose I missed something here, but please expand on "these traditions" that the Apostle had put confidences in?<br /><br />thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-30587921970470522762010-01-15T18:15:40.394+00:002010-01-15T18:15:40.394+00:00For now I'll comment on two things:
1. 1 Cor ...For now I'll comment on two things:<br /><br />1. 1 Cor 10:4.<br /><br />Gregory Beale has an extensive discussion of this verse (pace Enns) in his book, The Eorsion of Inerrancy in Evangelicalism.<br /><br />I believe that his analysis may also be available online in back issues of JETS and Themelios.<br /><br /><br />2. Jude 9, 14 15<br /><br />This is a case in which a Catholic apologist stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-21883157122737528082010-01-15T18:13:40.529+00:002010-01-15T18:13:40.529+00:00d) 1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached...d) 1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; <br /><br />Yea, I thought that one creepy!<br /><br />I wonder, well, no, no need to wonder just what he was thinking trying to put that one over as some oral tradition? Come on!<br /><br />I would certainly like for musings sake to read his explanation for that one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-2603991491896722072010-01-15T15:56:36.373+00:002010-01-15T15:56:36.373+00:00"To assume anything else is to engage in wild..."To assume anything else is to engage in wild speculations."<br /><br />LOL<br /><br />"So what is supposed to have happened here: The Holy Spirit whispered in Paul's ear "remember that tradition you heard, I'm giving it the thumbs up for you to enscripturate"??"<br /><br />No, instead holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-18877402002077905512010-01-15T15:45:52.921+00:002010-01-15T15:45:52.921+00:00So what is supposed to have happened here: The Ho...So what is supposed to have happened here: The Holy Spirit whispered in Paul's ear "remember that tradition you heard, I'm giving it the thumbs up for you to enscripturate"??<br /><br />I don't think there is any reason to believe this is the modus operandi of the apostles. Rather they took information from the same places everyone else did, and they wrote as normal people Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977287092917957220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-56615707206850400302010-01-15T15:30:33.156+00:002010-01-15T15:30:33.156+00:00"Pointing out that the Apostles used oral tra..."Pointing out that the Apostles used oral traditions in their teaching does not establish that those traditions were the authoritative word of God in their own right. "<br /><br />Precisely!Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-76184138803987489652010-01-15T14:48:41.627+00:002010-01-15T14:48:41.627+00:00They became the word of God when they were used by...They became the word of God when they were used by the Holy Spirit in the Apostles' inspired teaching. But one has to distinguish how these traditions were used by the Apostles from what they were beforehand. <br /><br />The apostle John describes the Lord as the alpha and omega, the one "who was and is and is to come". These were phrases that were used for Zeus and other pagan louishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05447894010657835114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-72569260805529337302010-01-15T14:08:45.705+00:002010-01-15T14:08:45.705+00:00"What sort of argument is it to just keep say..."What sort of argument is it to just keep saying 'it is not drawn on as authoritative, nor is it called the word of God.'"<br /><br />The kind of argument that appeals to those who love the truth. The kind of argument that points out the obvious fact. The kind of argument that disarms the sophistry of Steve Ray. There are so many categories into which this sort of argument Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-2945849339295972242010-01-15T14:00:37.744+00:002010-01-15T14:00:37.744+00:00What sort of argument is it to just keep saying &q...What sort of argument is it to just keep saying "it is not drawn on as authoritative, nor is it called the word of God."<br /><br />The apostles repeat these things as facts, and as such they have become the word of God. That's the confidence they had in these traditions, that they are willing to thus bless them.<br /><br />And what does it mean to just keep saying "there is noJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02977287092917957220noreply@blogger.com