tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post2959693196103031918..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Interesting Observations from Benedict XVITurretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-61719811068531605812012-04-15T03:51:52.401+01:002012-04-15T03:51:52.401+01:00My punctuation for the Bernard quote was off in se...My punctuation for the Bernard quote was off in several places. Sorry about that. Here it is again:<br /><br />‘What I cannot obtain by myself,’—writes Saint Bernard—‘I appropriate (literally, I usurp!) with confidence from the pierced side of the Lord, because he is full of mercy. […] Hence my merit is the mercy of God. I am certainly not poor in merits, as long as he is rich in mercy. If Pete Holternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-53296479823205938272012-04-13T22:33:48.976+01:002012-04-13T22:33:48.976+01:00Did Lazarus have to make a choice in his conversi...Did Lazarus have to make a choice in his conversion from death to life?turretinfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-3489337120209691832012-04-13T22:32:58.480+01:002012-04-13T22:32:58.480+01:00& wer're back to the beginning. Of course ...& wer're back to the beginning. Of course God transforms you, but still there is a choice that only you made. Otherwise it would not be a conversion. The fact that you're denying such a logical fact is almost laughable.<br />& btw, I know the Gospel isn't about choosing to obey the law of God, thank you very much.MBdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-6135243218213323752012-04-13T19:16:17.969+01:002012-04-13T19:16:17.969+01:00I make lots of choices all the time. Surely you d...I make lots of choices all the time. Surely you don't think that choosing to obey the law of God is the gospel. Yet that is what Deuteronomy 30:19-20 is talking about. My choices come from my heart. In conversion, my heart was transformed by God. Now, I freely choose things I never would have freely chosen otherwise.<br /><br />It's not about God "forcing" but about God turretinfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-75730195170974843182012-04-13T02:19:09.565+01:002012-04-13T02:19:09.565+01:00He converted you, but there was still a choice you...He converted you, but there was still a choice you had to make. It's no wonder that God says in Deuteronomy 30:19-20 "This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him&MBdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-77851144982871368202012-04-12T22:43:52.728+01:002012-04-12T22:43:52.728+01:00The Holy Spirit converted me. If you converted yo...The Holy Spirit converted me. If you converted yourself, your conversion was empty and you are still in your sins.turretinfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-50088956535698610352012-04-12T18:53:56.969+01:002012-04-12T18:53:56.969+01:00did Jesus force you to convert? because he didn...did Jesus force you to convert? because he didn't force me. I chose to convert.MBdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-20279676101551222202012-04-12T13:44:56.726+01:002012-04-12T13:44:56.726+01:00I don't recall Jesus getting permission before...I don't recall Jesus getting permission before passing through the locked doors.turretinfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-15217658814653520552012-04-12T03:27:08.266+01:002012-04-12T03:27:08.266+01:00"Yet God is not blocked by closed doors. If H..."Yet God is not blocked by closed doors. If He wishes, he can pass through the doors, bringing regeneration" <br /><br />Yes, but that must first be allowed by man. God is a gentleman, he's never gonna make a decision for you. It's your choice whether you wanna follow Him or not, whether you wanna have a relationship with Him & be regenerated or not. He never imposes but MBdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-8719393763756018712012-04-11T18:28:25.337+01:002012-04-11T18:28:25.337+01:00TF, hmmmmm. There is this tension between those wh...TF, hmmmmm. There is this tension between those who are imputed His Righteousness and those who work for it.<br /><br />Your questions: <i>Were the disciples not previously regenerated by baptism? Was their original baptism not sacramental?</i><br /><br />That is an interesting side note, for me, at least, these questions. Lately I have found my mind going back to something that seems to Natamllcnoreply@blogger.com