tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post3995777370845929253..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Response to John H. Armstrong on the Caner SituationTurretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-60747008658967861802010-07-30T23:57:36.702+01:002010-07-30T23:57:36.702+01:00Here's the entry for Caner that USED to be on ...Here's the entry for Caner that USED to be on the Speakers page for the Cedarville event:<br /><br />“Ergun Mehmet Caner (B.A., M.A., M.Div., Th.M., Th.D.) is president of the Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary and Graduate School at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia. Raised as the son of a Muslim leader in Turkey, Caner became a Christian shortly before entering college. Serving Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-44564050595156257192010-07-30T23:44:17.741+01:002010-07-30T23:44:17.741+01:00It seems that Caner is making the rounds, because ...It seems that Caner is making the rounds, because that makes at least two youth camps he spoke at during the same week: the one I mentioned at Cedarville University, and the one at West Virginia.<br /><br />That is why this is not just a "Liberty University issue." As long as E. Michael Caner is going around speaking at conferences and youth camps, it is an issue that each and every Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-59133742952281218012010-07-30T21:01:39.014+01:002010-07-30T21:01:39.014+01:00Go Tell Link:
http://www.gotellministries.com/c...Go Tell Link: <br /><br /><br />http://www.gotellministries.com/camps/summary_buckhannon.html#thumbneed to knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-29495791615723330142010-07-30T20:59:00.281+01:002010-07-30T20:59:00.281+01:00@Bennett Willis- This is in no way a “tease.” I ha...@Bennett Willis- This is in no way a “tease.” I had read extensively blogs about the Caner situation and wanted to hear him for myself. The youth camp was the “Go Tell” camp held in West Virginia. He spoke Wednesday July 16th. I do not have the recording of the event but I heard it for myself and took notes. The recording is probably available from the link below. “Go Tell” is the ministry who need to knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-24729243165042686772010-07-30T13:54:35.113+01:002010-07-30T13:54:35.113+01:00Regarding Caner speaking at a youth camp, it was r...Regarding Caner speaking at a youth camp, it was reported here that he spoke at at the Momentum 2010 event held at Cedarville University this past July 12-18. However, if one goes to the CURRENT version of the Speaker's section on their website, one finds something VERY interesting:<br /><br />http://buildmomentum.org/youth-conference-speakers.aspTomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-69215948153119806282010-07-29T21:03:53.112+01:002010-07-29T21:03:53.112+01:00A little off the subject but a connection between ...A little off the subject but a connection between two of the characters in this little play was noticed. Mark on Watchdog's thread reported this link: http://www.watchman.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.staff You will find Tim G and EC there. This helps me think that I might understand a bit more.Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-86710154883118906992010-07-29T18:14:07.191+01:002010-07-29T18:14:07.191+01:00BruinEric, you are reporting the usual presentatio...BruinEric, you are reporting the usual presentation of EC's conversion location. I heard it yesterday--with some details. That has been the most common and consistent statement but maybe it too is not correct--or at least not consistent.<br /><br />Surely "need to know" is teasing about EC continuing to change the story to fit the crowd. What else did EC say about his early (Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-33999363987167647292010-07-29T03:34:25.375+01:002010-07-29T03:34:25.375+01:00From my recollection, the most common claim for Mr...From my recollection, the most common claim for Mr. Caner is that he was saved at a revival effort at Stelzer Rd. Baptist Church in Ohio, and also "surrendered to the ministry" there. <br /><br />So perhaps it is arguable that church revival = camp. Or perhaps it's still a little teensy bit of spice & spin added to a speech to better connect with an audience.<br /><br />This BruinEricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-63664415157328462032010-07-29T00:43:07.807+01:002010-07-29T00:43:07.807+01:00The reason I ask is because I expected that. It s...The reason I ask is because I expected that. It seems that Caner makes slight variations to his story depending on the audience he is speaking to. As soon as you said he tesitfied to getting saved at camp I knew he had said that to a bunch of campers.I Wonderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09597846512904413455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-65023390291581451102010-07-28T21:07:03.722+01:002010-07-28T21:07:03.722+01:00As a matter of fact, it was at a youth camp.As a matter of fact, it was at a youth camp.need to knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-13368205700783829232010-07-28T21:05:06.314+01:002010-07-28T21:05:06.314+01:00Hello "need to know",
When you heard Ca...Hello "need to know",<br /><br />When you heard Caner speak were you at a camp when he gave his "camp conversion" testimony?I Wonderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09597846512904413455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-7629500557424907912010-07-28T20:49:28.755+01:002010-07-28T20:49:28.755+01:00Someone help me please...I heard Caner speak a cou...Someone help me please...I heard Caner speak a couple of weeks ago and he said "I was saved at camp-in Ohio." also "I was called to the ministry at camp." Rather than going through hundreds of posts perhaps someone can set this straight. If it's not true, he's still out there lyingneed to knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-67275585454243818712010-07-28T20:11:50.175+01:002010-07-28T20:11:50.175+01:00I posted all that above to point to these verses h...I posted all that above to point to these verses here:<br /><br /><i>Col 3:1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. <br />Col 3:2 Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth. <br />Col 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. <br />Col 3:4 When Christ whoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-85830532281016125972010-07-28T19:44:20.707+01:002010-07-28T19:44:20.707+01:00Of what I just read, TF, I would focus on number 6...Of what I just read, TF, I would focus on number <b>6 c</b> because of these verses and will then express an opinion:::><br /><br /><i>Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. <br />Eph 2:19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, <br />Eph 2:20 built on the foundation Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-27169266934863910912010-07-28T18:06:14.586+01:002010-07-28T18:06:14.586+01:00And there is certainly enough information availabl...And there is certainly enough information available to draw a conclusion. It does seem inappropriate to draw a conclusion without at least veiwing a reasonable sampling of the information that is available.<br /><br />And (as has been said so many times) once you view the information, then you know that things were said that simply were not true. You also know that the Caners benefitted from Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.com