tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post5348136457504072277..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Athanasius against Scripture's Formal Sufficiency?Turretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-79964127035270808212010-02-18T21:52:28.905+00:002010-02-18T21:52:28.905+00:00And thank you sir.And thank you sir.Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06341480161054661420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-40180244176344540622010-02-18T21:28:51.942+00:002010-02-18T21:28:51.942+00:00"In conclusion, your holding to Athanasius as..."In conclusion, your holding to Athanasius as a purveyor of the formal sufficiency scripture runs aground whenever we encounter Athanasius reflecting on the <i>interpretation</i> of scripture."<br /><br />Actually, my post above demonstrates just the opposite. Thanks for stopping by, though!<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-30018747773412969052010-02-18T20:09:45.723+00:002010-02-18T20:09:45.723+00:00Sorry for assuming something there. It didn't...Sorry for assuming something there. It didn't seem that you were familiar with it as you didn't name the author and you referred to it as a 'paper.' <br /><br />At any rate, if you are familiar with this treatise on Athanasius than I wouldn't add anything further but only highlight that in the context of speaking about the 'rule of faith', Athanasius highlights that Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06341480161054661420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-15447018240338321202010-02-18T19:39:47.878+00:002010-02-18T19:39:47.878+00:00I've spent a great deal longer than eight minu...I've spent a great deal longer than eight minutes studying what Newman has written.<br /><br />And I am aware of the long time he spent undermining Anglican doctrine as an Anglican before he openly joined Rome's communion.<br /><br />I was trying not to make this about the person of the author of the paper ... hence the careful tone of my comment above.Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-33436342644180798182010-02-18T19:33:18.490+00:002010-02-18T19:33:18.490+00:00I might also suggest that you give the treatise(s)...I might also suggest that you give the treatise(s) a read. <br /><br />I note that you spent less than 8 minutes reviewing the pertinent passage that I linked previously before rendering judgment. <br /><br />Newman goes to considerable lengths in this work to demonstrate exactly how and where Athanasius’ does not appeal to the judgment of the private individual.Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06341480161054661420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-54892577098024522982010-02-18T19:29:19.986+00:002010-02-18T19:29:19.986+00:00The author is John Henry Newman and this study of ...The author is John Henry Newman and this study of Athanasius was completed while he was an Anglican.<br /><br />The work is "Select Treatises of St. Athanasius" (1842 and 1844)<br /><br />This study and subsequent publication on Athanasius quite a standard of the study of the church father.<br /><br />You can find volume one <a href="http://www.newmanreader.org/works/athanasius/volume1/Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06341480161054661420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-78640739412386840602010-02-18T17:04:47.120+00:002010-02-18T17:04:47.120+00:00Raymond, with all due respect, the paper seems to ...Raymond, with all due respect, the paper seems to make a number of assertions that don't align well with the factual data. For example, the author of the paper states: "It is not his aim ordinarily to <i>prove</i> doctrine by Scripture, nor does he appeal to the private judgment of the individual Christian in order to determine what Scripture means" yet we do see Athanasius doing Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-36254973310378999472010-02-18T16:56:07.990+00:002010-02-18T16:56:07.990+00:00Here is a thorough examination of this topic.<a href="http://www.newmanreader.org/works/athanasius/volume2/file9.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a thorough examination of this topic.Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06341480161054661420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-83793708216319823182010-02-18T14:15:35.047+00:002010-02-18T14:15:35.047+00:00(thanks to my other commenter for the spelling cor...(thanks to my other commenter for the spelling correction!)<br /><br />"will SP jump into the Tiber and swim back across?" <br /><br />May God, by his grace, grant that!Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-71695213780733586542010-02-18T03:01:16.204+00:002010-02-18T03:01:16.204+00:00I would say, after this thorough examination that ...I would say, after this thorough examination that one could accuse Athanasius of being a Bible Thumper! :)<br /><br />And I might add, a very good one at that!<br /><br />The question though, held in suspense, is, will SP jump into the Tiber and swim back across?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com