tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post5812098410021873941..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Molinism - Responses to a Some Attempted DefensesTurretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-13656287545119281172015-09-07T17:07:35.693+01:002015-09-07T17:07:35.693+01:00Cute catch, Keith. It does sound a little like mi...Cute catch, Keith. It does sound a little like middle knowledge and Molinism. Obviously, there is plenty Dr. White has said elsewhere that clarifies his position, but nice catch!Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-26917358538715159602015-09-06T01:18:42.824+01:002015-09-06T01:18:42.824+01:00Uh, actually, James White *does* accept Molinism. ...Uh, actually, James White *does* accept Molinism. Hear him admit to accepting the underlying premise here:<br /><br />https://youtu.be/0N12MIPu19sKeith Pattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06747953790339399032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-33408747092735152372015-08-26T05:45:08.180+01:002015-08-26T05:45:08.180+01:00TF //On Molinism, God is not literally dealt cards...TF //On Molinism, God is not literally dealt cards by a card dealer, but what other than a co-eternal being could limit God before God's decree to create?//<br /><br />Well being a Trinitarian I can think of two who could deal a deck of cards that could limit God in those middle knowledge worlds but not in this world we live in! But that would be impossible there because God is One!<br /><br michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01744678277860175675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-40728770230123489092015-08-20T17:42:10.308+01:002015-08-20T17:42:10.308+01:00As to your first issue, my point about Molinism be...As to your first issue, my point about Molinism being unbiblical is not that it relies on philosophy, it's that it does not rely on Scripture as its source.<br /><br />As to your second issue, my point is that Molinism lacks Scriptural warrant. My post doesn't say that Molinists "do not care about Scripture."<br /><br />As to your third issue, (a) your rebuttal seems to suppose Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-85823546797162308442015-08-20T17:01:28.539+01:002015-08-20T17:01:28.539+01:00Fifth, I responded to the horrid example of philos...Fifth, I responded to the horrid example of philosophical theology known as the "grounding objection" in my original post. The first time I heard it, I thought that Dr White was just rambling and saying random things. But apparently, he thinks that this is a serious argument (which reminds me of Professor Richard Dawkins thinking that the Boehing 747 Gambit was a serious argument). Richard Busheyhttp://thereforegodexists.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-28812760128443099852015-08-20T17:00:10.407+01:002015-08-20T17:00:10.407+01:00Mr Turretin,
Thanks for taking the time to reply.... Mr Turretin,<br /><br />Thanks for taking the time to reply. I appreciate the polite demeanor that you maintained throughout this response. Too often on the internet, people just do not know how to behave when engaging with those with whom they disagree. <br /><br />First, even if you disagree that Molinism remains within the confines of biblical theology, that is not quite the point. I was Richard Busheyhttp://thereforegodexists.comnoreply@blogger.com