tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post5977416054594900796..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Responding to "Gabriel Serafin" Regarding the Religion based on the WordTurretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-70889893157214237582012-01-31T19:43:29.192+00:002012-01-31T19:43:29.192+00:00"God is not opposed to images: Moses wielded ..."God is not opposed to images: Moses wielded an image of a serpent; there were carved cherubim on the Ark; archaeology reveals icons depicting the great events of Israel's history within Christ-era synagogues. And so on."<br /><br />I assume you are referring to Dura Europos.<br /><br />a) One unique synagogue in an unparalleled town does not "synagogues" make. <br /><br turretinfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-66042879822922210392012-01-11T03:49:28.784+00:002012-01-11T03:49:28.784+00:00Greetings in Christ, Philip Primeau!
You wrote, ...Greetings in Christ, Philip Primeau! <br /><br />You wrote, <br /><br />“My main difficulty is with the Mariolatry that exists in certain circles, as well as the subtle but definite drift away from Augustinianism and toward (semi-)Pelagianism. Also, I question the exact role the bishops, and the Successor of Peter especially, were meant to play in the Church.”<br /><br />I offer the following 5 Pete Holternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-27260461486311527312012-01-09T15:54:02.091+00:002012-01-09T15:54:02.091+00:00I was most shocked by how casually the Protestant ...I was most shocked by how casually the Protestant churches that I explored treated the Eucharist. One congregation served the Supper of the Lamb buffet style, with rice chips and fruit juice! Such is American Protestantism. I can only imagine how Calvin or Luther would abominate such a practice! <br /><br />I am currently working my way through the Lord's Supper section of Calvin's Philip Primeaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-20219921130838790632012-01-09T15:08:17.703+00:002012-01-09T15:08:17.703+00:00Ah, so you are a fallen away Catholic! I suspected...Ah, so you are a fallen away Catholic! I suspected as much. Unfortunately, many Catholics have been ruined by the rotten modernism that has infected the Church during the 20th century. I am very sorry for your bad experience. My experience growing up Catholic was also quite unfortunate, which is why, when I began to explore Christ in my late teens, I originally explored various Protestant Philip Primeaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-54319684289620517292012-01-06T21:20:39.469+00:002012-01-06T21:20:39.469+00:00That is why I qualified the statement with "o...That is why I qualified the statement with "obviously on a different level." God reveals Himself most decisively in the Incarnation and then in Holy Scripture. All other means are dwarfed by the Word made flesh and the Word made word. Nonetheless, the Divine works through all manner of creation, as amply demonstrated by Scriptures which you blithely decide to ignore.<br /><br />You havePhilip Primeaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-20382829678309357182012-01-06T21:12:11.846+00:002012-01-06T21:12:11.846+00:00Philip,
This is going nowhere now: "...Pope...Philip, <br /><br />This is going nowhere now: <i>"...Popes and relics and all such creations are for our benefit, like the Bible (though obviously on a different level). "</i><br /><br />So, you have conveniently replaced the First Commandment and the Two Great Words/Works for mankind with that sentence, that is, "adding" to them!<br /><br />Enough already, then!<br /><br /><Natamllcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-43327466145044016052012-01-06T20:04:18.367+00:002012-01-06T20:04:18.367+00:00"Our Humble God doesn't need your papacy ..."Our Humble God doesn't need your papacy or magisterium or relic pratices to restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish His own in this fallen world."<br /><br />I couldn't agree more. God does nothing out of necessity. God doesn't need anything or anyone. Popes and relics and all such creations are for our benefit, like the Bible (though obviously on a different level). <Philip Primeaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-21555160156642458242012-01-05T18:38:07.099+00:002012-01-05T18:38:07.099+00:00Philip,
I believe it is your ecclesiology that is...Philip,<br /><br />I believe it is your ecclesiology that is found wanting. You haven't done anything here to address my point, yet, to explain it.<br /><br />As TF pointed out above, Christ is the "Head" of this Church you speak of as yours; your church that you believe to be the one and only "true" Body of Christ, the Holy dwelling places of the Most High.<br /><br />LetNatamllcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-70093422999527757052012-01-05T18:10:46.792+00:002012-01-05T18:10:46.792+00:00What is so puzzling? Jew and Gentile are united in...What is so puzzling? Jew and Gentile are united in the Church, the Body of Christ; both find salvation in that mystical communion.<br /><br />"For He is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in Himself of twain one new man, soPhilip Primeaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-84989964874156378492012-01-05T17:41:14.935+00:002012-01-05T17:41:14.935+00:00So, Philip, you hold to the RCC as Christ's Bo...So, Philip, you hold to the RCC as Christ's Body? How do you reconcile the verse then?<br /><br />I would be interested in how you treat the Word to Jews and Gentiles and what God is saying through Christ's Apostle, Paul?Natamllcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-27235554232374200342012-01-05T17:22:41.917+00:002012-01-05T17:22:41.917+00:00My wife is a Jew who converted to Catholicism.My wife is a Jew who converted to Catholicism.Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-78577592136978237102012-01-05T16:27:59.739+00:002012-01-05T16:27:59.739+00:00Philip,
let me ask you something based on this fr...Philip,<br /><br />let me ask you something based on this from Scriptures:<br /><br /><br /><b>Eph 2:18</b> For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. <br /><br />Are there Jews that you know of who have converted to the Roman Catholic Church?Natamllcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-11486533411749959112012-01-05T14:31:06.184+00:002012-01-05T14:31:06.184+00:00***We believe the Church is the very Body of Chris...***We believe the Church is the very Body of Christ, "the fulness of Him that filleth all in all" (Ephesians 1:22-23). The Church is "the pillar and ground of the truth" (I Timothy 3:15), of which we are "lively stones" (I Peter 2:5).Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-3350619182712440752012-01-05T14:30:12.750+00:002012-01-05T14:30:12.750+00:00You find Catholic claims absurd because you embrac...You find Catholic claims absurd because you embrace a fundamentally different ecclesiology. Your "church" and my "Church" are two entirely different things, it too often seems. I speak of the Mystical Body of Christ, the supernatural communion sustained by the glue of the Spirit and participation in the bread-turned-Flesh and wine-turned-Blood: "The cup of blessing which Philipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-54558682308149712372012-01-05T01:43:01.790+00:002012-01-05T01:43:01.790+00:00bravobravoEric Hettinger jrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-10835375143001540022012-01-04T19:21:40.221+00:002012-01-04T19:21:40.221+00:00As usual TF, this is a calculated seasoned and ex...As usual TF, this is a calculated seasoned and excellent response to a faulty idea of the fallacy of Church origins promoted by the RCC.<br /><br />As I read this piece I was recollecting just how God establishes the facts as we now know them, the Word of God, by revelation from the Holy Spirit by inspiration to men of God, of course, who, in turn, wrote the Word of God or orally spoke it and Natamllcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-66691661533434179212012-01-04T16:57:45.237+00:002012-01-04T16:57:45.237+00:00Enjoyed the post. Particularly as I read Deut. 32...Enjoyed the post. Particularly as I read Deut. 32 last night as part of my reading. I never had thought about the references of the Rock in the old testament as an argument against RCC teaching (though I'm sure now it's a common one). Thanks for you efforts.Lee Gerriettsnoreply@blogger.com