tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post6181903335414194952..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Asking the Wrong Marian Questions ...Turretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-8944795340514506082010-06-23T03:51:11.484+01:002010-06-23T03:51:11.484+01:00Anon,
Your bald assertions represent unsubstantia...Anon,<br /><br />Your bald assertions represent unsubstantiated criticism of TF's position that fails to engage his thought in any meaningful way!<br /><br />As you should be aware, this is <b>his</b> blog and you're being a very rude guest.<br /><br />I certainly hope you don't visit the homes of strangers uninvited and then angrily upbraid them because you don't like the way Coram Deohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03504564435400500996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-56686297586223409322010-06-22T17:34:08.168+01:002010-06-22T17:34:08.168+01:00Let me rephrase: instead of "insult" ple...Let me rephrase: instead of "insult" please "unsubstantiated criticism."<br /><br />Same as this time, you offered no substance, only assertions.<br /><br />You've now violated my request for your discontinued non-substantive participation once. Please don't do it again.<br /><br />If you want to make an actual substantive argument, feel free. If you are just here toTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-17896152452168370912010-06-22T17:29:11.474+01:002010-06-22T17:29:11.474+01:00I insulted you? How? Your rhetoric IS a caricature...I insulted you? How? Your rhetoric IS a caricature of Catholic beliefs, that DOES fail to engage Catholic thought in any meaningful way!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-15229124312356003222010-06-22T01:01:00.975+01:002010-06-22T01:01:00.975+01:00You wrote: "Like I said nowhere do they say M...<a rel="nofollow">You wrote: "Like I said nowhere do they say Mary is more understanding than God."<br /><br />The article states: I say, "Why would you go to her with things that you would not go to God with?" "Because she's a woman, she understands."</a><br /><br />Well, I don't like the answer that much either but I'm sure if they realized someone was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-63802187667199411842010-06-22T00:57:25.717+01:002010-06-22T00:57:25.717+01:00Devotion is a genus, of which religious devotion i...<a rel="nofollow">Devotion is a genus, of which religious devotion is a species. Hopefully you can tell the difference between the way you communicate with your wife, and the way you attempt to communicate with the dead.</a><br /><br />Communicate with the dead? No, I never attempt that. :)<br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">You wrote: "What’s more important, asking the right questions or getting Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-55241999172730796812010-06-21T17:37:37.372+01:002010-06-21T17:37:37.372+01:00Wow to Augustinefan's article and comments.
T...Wow to Augustinefan's article and comments.<br /><br />To the last first then.<br /><br />It is out of place to agree with Eph. 3:20-21 and defend a woman's right to pray to Mary for understanding as he suggests here and disregard these Words:<br /><br /><br />Eph 3:8 To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-47443465418031237132010-06-21T12:56:43.511+01:002010-06-21T12:56:43.511+01:00AF:
So, anyhow, I read your article. Allow me to...AF:<br /><br />So, anyhow, I read your article. Allow me to respond:<br /><br />You wrote: "And what would you expect? We don’t worship Mary!"<br /><br />This I've already answered in the post above.<br /><br />You wrote: "An act of devotion is not worship. I’m devoted to my wife and all I can say of Christ, my devotion to Him, I can say of my wife without thinking that I’m Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-72284226931181416932010-06-21T02:17:57.644+01:002010-06-21T02:17:57.644+01:00Augustinefan,
They say that imitation is the sinc...Augustinefan,<br /><br />They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Color me flattered. I'll try to read and respond to your post this coming week, if God gives me time for it.<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-41496885478340351042010-06-21T02:16:52.656+01:002010-06-21T02:16:52.656+01:00LegalBegal,
Your insult is duly noted. Your insu...LegalBegal,<br /><br />Your insult is duly noted. Your insult, however, does nothing to advance Romanist-Reformed dialog. So, please make it your last comment here, unless you plan to provide something that consists less of insults and more of substance.<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-64848718806657664302010-06-20T23:58:42.589+01:002010-06-20T23:58:42.589+01:00http://augustinefan.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/getti...http://augustinefan.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/getting-the-right-answers/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-25739015850704081642010-06-20T22:53:03.109+01:002010-06-20T22:53:03.109+01:00Your rhetoric does a disservice to your readers in...Your rhetoric does a disservice to your readers in that it does not challenge them to engage Catholic thought in any meaningful way. How sad!Legalbeaglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-77491034279547958012010-06-19T20:05:14.790+01:002010-06-19T20:05:14.790+01:00CD,
thanks!CD,<br /><br />thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-65066135476451735972010-06-19T13:53:36.330+01:002010-06-19T13:53:36.330+01:00natamllc,
Although this is not an "official&...natamllc,<br /><br />Although this is not an "official" explanation from the ESV folks, <a href="http://www.jeffriddle.net/2009/05/luke-101-17-and-traditional-text-of.html" rel="nofollow"><b>here</b></a> is a rendering of the 70 vs. 72 debate surrounding the proper rendering of Luke 10:1,17<br /><br />In Christ,<br />CDCoram Deohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03504564435400500996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-64581975587756518392010-06-19T02:44:12.257+01:002010-06-19T02:44:12.257+01:00And, oh, thanks CD, you flatter a dead dog! Such i...And, oh, thanks CD, you flatter a dead dog! Such is life, huh?<br /><br />And, let's be clear about the RCC and any such religion. These are crafty expressions of doctrines of demons; pure and simple.<br /><br />There may come a day when I will have to give an account for saying that. Such is my lot then. <br /><br />I trust the thoughts of the Holy Spirit, Psalm 139.<br /><br />If the day Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-47759967687040575332010-06-19T02:08:26.047+01:002010-06-19T02:08:26.047+01:00natamllc,
I just wanted to take a moment to tell ...natamllc,<br /><br />I just wanted to take a moment to tell you that I really appreciate your non-linear thinking, brother. <br /><br />To be honest it took me awhile to warm up to your <i>sane/insane man</i> style, because I had trouble following your logic (and to be honest I still would if I hadn't given up on trying to make you think like I think).<br /><br />In the past I often thought Coram Deohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03504564435400500996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-27051458331685057152010-06-19T02:01:42.656+01:002010-06-19T02:01:42.656+01:00Adam,
no, it would be fair to say I thought the W...Adam,<br /><br />no, it would be fair to say I thought the Whole Bible started to become a book full of gibberish! That's why, after shaking me to my core, I put it down!<br /><br />I was, to compare to another in the most general sort of ways, like the Ethiopian Eunuch who read the Scriptures without understanding. Thank God for the Holy Spirit, who sent along some mature, well, sound Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-72245931376181232192010-06-19T01:26:02.344+01:002010-06-19T01:26:02.344+01:00natamllc,
I meant the term "absurd" in ...natamllc,<br /><br />I meant the term "absurd" in the context of meaning in the Hebrew language. I meant that the idea that Psalm 45:16-17 refers to Mary is *linguistically* absurd, because of the masculine suffixes. While you might have thought that the message of the book of Exodus was absurd when you were a new believer, surely you did not think the language of the text was absurd Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07063946356186510693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-48015213770437318232010-06-19T00:40:35.998+01:002010-06-19T00:40:35.998+01:00Good point John!
So much for the perspicuity of t...Good point John!<br /><br />So much for the perspicuity of the believer.<br /><br />When in doubt, ask the questions which TF has done!<br /><br />I hope guys like you will keep your iron hot and sharp and keep on sharpening! :)<br /><br />Besides, I thought Adam needed a little rub down anyway! He's got tough skin!<br /><br />AAAh, right Adam? :))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-68317101670682364312010-06-18T22:26:13.869+01:002010-06-18T22:26:13.869+01:00Natamllc: This is the second time in as many days ...Natamllc: This is the second time in as many days when I've seen someone not-quite-undertand your very subtle sense of humor. I say things frequently myself on line, intended one way, but taken another. Sometimes a combox just isn't the place for subtlety. I don't know what the answer to that is, other than just to strive for more clarity.John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-58948003411545560592010-06-18T21:25:45.153+01:002010-06-18T21:25:45.153+01:00I was keying off Adam's words "we know&qu...I was keying off Adam's words "we know" in his comments to make a "spiritual" point. <br /><br />No, I am not saying I align or agree with the absurdity of that interpretation from Ps. 45:16-17 that that is referencing Mary. That indeed is "absurd" but I don't fault the lady or anyone within the RCC for that reasoning.<br /><br />What I am saying is, until Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-61713214917758648062010-06-18T20:57:39.418+01:002010-06-18T20:57:39.418+01:00NatAmLLC:
You stated that you don't think it&...NatAmLLC:<br /><br />You stated that you don't think it's absurd to say that Psalm 45:16-17 refers to Mary. I am confused. Perhaps you have a stronger word than "absurd" in mind? <br /><br />I cannot imagine you mean to say that you agree with the idea that Psalm 45-16-17 refers to Mary!<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-75073107100456068422010-06-18T20:54:33.264+01:002010-06-18T20:54:33.264+01:00adam,
you wrote: "...That's the most abs...adam,<br /><br />you wrote: "...That's the most absurd thing I have ever heard. In verses 16 and 17, we know who the "your" is there...".<br /><br />I don't think it is absurd at all.<br /><br />Why?<br /><br />Well, tell me how you understand these things? Is it by the "Will" of God or by your own will?<br /><br />Knowing the "truth" can only be byAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-44267689289531322972010-06-18T20:24:42.668+01:002010-06-18T20:24:42.668+01:00John Bugay,
You ought to look up Mary's "...John Bugay,<br /><br /><i>You ought to look up Mary's "Immaculate Foot," crushing the head of the serpent, in Gen 3:15</i>.<br /><br />Wow, that is just as bad. Yes, it says the <i>seed</i> of the woman [the one mentioned in the garden of Eden], not the foot of a woman that would not come into existence for millenia later.<br /><br />There are times I just want to yell, "Leave Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07063946356186510693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-69044449358765359832010-06-18T12:21:39.341+01:002010-06-18T12:21:39.341+01:00You ought to look up Mary's "Immaculate ...You ought to look up Mary's "Immaculate Foot," crushing the head of the serpent, in Gen 3:15.John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-23437300140777281912010-06-18T02:20:54.306+01:002010-06-18T02:20:54.306+01:00"You see, Hebrew has both a masculine and a f..."You see, Hebrew has both a masculine and a feminine second person singular."<br /><br />Yea, I told him that (cited Wallace) and that Hebrews 1 isn't a reference to Mary. He shut up :)Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07883500968749756873noreply@blogger.com