tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post7098137395667216006..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: One of Myriad Little Details - the Toledo MosqueTurretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-5409313273605573462010-05-28T21:28:32.603+01:002010-05-28T21:28:32.603+01:00Does he say it was a forty minute drive? I didn&#...Does he say it was a forty minute drive? I didn't hear him say that. I have, however, updated the post to show the actual driving time from Gahanna, OH, to Toledo, OH.Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-50372419657305399402010-05-28T21:19:25.357+01:002010-05-28T21:19:25.357+01:00Fredericka -
Funny post! Deciphering Ergun's...Fredericka -<br /><br />Funny post! Deciphering Ergun's real biography is like taking a course in textual criticism - is the oldest manuscript most accurate, the majority of texts? etc.<br /><br />I thought it was odd that he stated that Toledo was 40 minutes away. Away from where, Columbus? Maybe he lived northwest of Columbus.Andrew Suttleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05006722357616296522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-21364079591596555772010-05-28T18:04:00.585+01:002010-05-28T18:04:00.585+01:00TF,
geeesh, my literary rhetorical flourishes are...TF,<br /><br />geeesh, my literary rhetorical flourishes aren't doing so well in here!!!<br /><br />Plus, I guess it should help thinking through what I post as well as check for gramatical errors before hitting the "publish your comment" button.<br /><br />You make my point so well! grrrr<br /><br />In one post I write:<br /><br /><br />"....We are disputing his contention Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-83051381598202991352010-05-28T17:58:38.818+01:002010-05-28T17:58:38.818+01:00gypsyrose
Well, now we have another perspective o...gypsyrose<br /><br />Well, now we have another perspective of the 21 generations claim Ergun makes. It just solidifies what is becoming more and more apparent.<br /><br />Thank you for sharing that. That information makes things clearer as to things being grappled with in trying to make sense of it all.<br /><br />"....If he had lived in Turkey as Turks for 21 generations, why is he Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-27961548279957272132010-05-28T02:49:03.702+01:002010-05-28T02:49:03.702+01:00Yes, actually people dispute that he was 18 at the...Yes, actually people dispute that he was 18 at the time. If it was 1982, as he has sometimes said, he was 16. If it was earlier (as it seems it may have been), he was 15.<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-90187274140199082552010-05-28T02:40:55.835+01:002010-05-28T02:40:55.835+01:00natamllc said:
What is wrong with a "true&qu...natamllc said:<br /><br />What is wrong with a "true" testimony of a bad family upbringing because a divorced mother struggles to raise three boys in Ohio? No one disputes he comes from 21 generations of Turks. I don't think anyone disputes he was converted at 18 in a Baptist Church.<br /><br />I dispute the "21 generations of Turks". Just because he says so?<br />He gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12144523102193802855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-55782458080175584872010-05-27T18:30:34.906+01:002010-05-27T18:30:34.906+01:00The contention that "girls as young as 9 are ...The contention that "girls as young as 9 are married in Turkey" is a flat out lie. The majority age is 18, and legally 16 with parental permission, I lived in Kansas and that age, at the time I was 14, without parental permission if I remember correctly.<br /><br />As for the "marriage custom", (this is really off topic, but I will answer), the mother and her sisters, gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12144523102193802855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-40425079106888120642010-05-27T18:18:55.274+01:002010-05-27T18:18:55.274+01:00Rules for decoding Ergun's stories:
1.) Earlie...Rules for decoding Ergun's stories:<br />1.) Earliest story is best.<br />2.) Ergun's story-telling process heightens and intensifies the drama level, so the least dramatic version of the story is likely closest to primitive.<br />3.) Ergun's ego sets by-standers to revolving around him like satellites, therefore least Ergun-centric story preferred.<br />4.) Some animus against the Frederickahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17071420764901945035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-52005153905265283132010-05-27T17:44:28.629+01:002010-05-27T17:44:28.629+01:00Also, now that I have done some more research on &...Also, now that I have done some more research on "Turkish" marriage customs, I find another discrepancy in the 66 minute clip you can link too above.<br /><br />Ergun tells us in the beginning of the tape how he, as an "old school" suiter, got hitched to his Southern Bell, his baby doll, his sugar. He says he came to her parents to ask for her hand in marriage.<br /><br />At Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-45559133183092347262010-05-27T17:15:04.232+01:002010-05-27T17:15:04.232+01:00Craig,
yes, you are right, 1960 should have been...Craig, <br /><br />yes, you are right, 1960 should have been "1964".<br /><br />Why I picked up on the "8" track tape comment is because the ministry I am with started in thought in 1969 and was published with the State of California in 1970. The man who the Lord used to start this work in the middle of the "Jesus" movement had already a local t.v. and radio ministryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-26768614810535790022010-05-27T12:43:35.586+01:002010-05-27T12:43:35.586+01:008-track tapes did linger for quite a while.8-track tapes did linger for quite a while.Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-78388116820281619422010-05-27T05:55:49.598+01:002010-05-27T05:55:49.598+01:00natamllc,
"They [8-tracks] came into being i...natamllc,<br /><br />"They [8-tracks] came into being in 1960 and were a part of this culture of the United States until around 1968 when the smaller version, the cassette tape was invented."<br /><br />I'm not sure where you were during those days, but I bought my first 8-tracks (Ted Nugent and Blue Oyster Cult) in 1978, a full ten years after you suggest they had fallen out of Craig Dunninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10502441945535194829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-63311055741399057742010-05-26T16:48:24.981+01:002010-05-26T16:48:24.981+01:00TF
while I am finding it more difficult now liste...TF<br /><br />while I am finding it more difficult now listening to anything Ergun says I am finding it useful in coming into an understanding of just how the spirit of this age maligns us, "including" the Caner brothers. I deal with the devils everyday and now moreso that I have the Law of Righteousness alive and functioning in my flesh.<br /><br />In the linked to audio, about 66 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-84941408841266685712010-05-26T03:27:21.936+01:002010-05-26T03:27:21.936+01:00TurretinFan,
I believe Ergun Caner was a Muslim. ...TurretinFan,<br />I believe Ergun Caner was a Muslim. However, let's consider something. Say someone we knew made a confession of faith in Christ when they were young. And for 10 years went to church, prayed, and maybe even went on a mission trip as a boy. Then, at 13 years of age, they convert to Islam and renounce their faith in Christ, and go on to prominence as a religious leader in agary dilworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06447173908213258470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-32040660045788248782010-05-26T02:27:34.018+01:002010-05-26T02:27:34.018+01:00thank you for following up on this. I was going to...thank you for following up on this. I was going to write about being Turkish immigrants in the Midwest in the 60's and the 70's, however this is instructive.<br />There is so much more than this, please keep on digging and good luck.gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12144523102193802855noreply@blogger.com