tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post8372412093661644446..comments2024-03-17T08:25:33.806+00:00Comments on Thoughts of Francis Turretin: Turkey, Many Wives, and Many Half-Brothers and SistersTurretinfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-63018843106491756272010-06-04T01:47:21.573+01:002010-06-04T01:47:21.573+01:00Debbie,
This is the only situation in which I exp...Debbie,<br /><br />This is the only situation in which I explicitly recall hearing him crack this particular joke. It is unlikely the only time, just because jokes tend to get reused by public speakers. If you are aware of other contexts where he's used this joke, please let me know.<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-58778881971750115502010-06-03T02:28:26.404+01:002010-06-03T02:28:26.404+01:00“Dr. Caner, do you believe in women behind the pul...“Dr. Caner, do you believe in women behind the pulpit? My answer is well, yeah, of course, how are they going to vacuum back there unless they get behind it….[laughter, and hoots and hollers]…..and that’s going to be in half of your pulpits next Sunday. FEEL FREE!!! I LOVE THAT LINE!! But you know one line like that shuts it all up, ’cause they’re not going to talk about it, and they’re not goingDebbie Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17748664558802779885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-57843894563333171852010-06-01T23:48:40.660+01:002010-06-01T23:48:40.660+01:00Gypsyrose,
can you tell us when you lived in Turk...Gypsyrose,<br /><br />can you tell us when you lived in Turkey? What years was that? I am assuming you were "born" in Turkey?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-59273466298780272012010-05-31T23:53:57.750+01:002010-05-31T23:53:57.750+01:00Sorry I have no idea what "pixie sticks"...Sorry I have no idea what "pixie sticks" are.<br /><br />Fredericka, that is an excellent point of the pictures. No, not everyone would, only those who are secular would have Ataturk's picture hanging.<br />Yet, most of us will have the Arabic prayers (calligraphy) of the Fatiha, the names Mohammed and Ali also hanging along with this picture. Sometimes with pictures of different gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17862609381423776524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-70695376808336956142010-05-31T22:37:29.325+01:002010-05-31T22:37:29.325+01:00"pixie sticks as a child and no hair when he ..."pixie sticks as a child and no hair when he was sixteen".<br /><br />Pixie sticks came about in the 1950's. I am wondering gypsyrose if you remember enjoying pixie sticks from candy stores in Turkey when you were a child and before you left when you were 8 years old?<br /><br />Also, in the Saturday May 15, 2010 blog thread TurretinFan posted pictures of Dr. Caner from his high Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-25240236926039464662010-05-31T20:59:49.593+01:002010-05-31T20:59:49.593+01:00gypsyrose, it is interesting that he says, "A...gypsyrose, it is interesting that he says, "As a Turk, I feel proud of my heritage. We all have pictures of Ataturk in our houses." If he grew up with a picture of Kemal Ataturk on the wall, would that tend to indicate a more secular home versus an Islamist home where they would not be so fond of Ataturk? Or do all Turks like Ataturk?Frederickahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17071420764901945035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-22222080579671902692010-05-31T20:51:50.727+01:002010-05-31T20:51:50.727+01:00I would offer some more verses to brighten what I ...I would offer some more verses to brighten what I wrote to Mr. Opsahl:::><br /><br /> 1Co 10:31 So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. <br />1Co 10:32 Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God, <br />1Co 10:33 just as I try to please everyone in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-83469858950171755672010-05-31T16:09:57.504+01:002010-05-31T16:09:57.504+01:00Mr. Opsahl,
I believe your remarks can best be su...Mr. Opsahl,<br /><br />I believe your remarks can best be summed up with this Proverb:<br /><br />Pro 26:8 Like one who binds the stone in the sling is one who gives honor to a fool. <br /><br />I have listened to several of Dr.Caner's talks and speeches and watched some video clips. I get a sense everytime I listen to him a stone is being slung and I find as I listen I always want to duck Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-79779590876780039962010-05-31T09:10:03.778+01:002010-05-31T09:10:03.778+01:00You know,
I think there are far more important iss...You know,<br />I think there are far more important issues in this speech than any supposed inconsistency's. Keep in mind that God requires a man to have several qualifications to be an Elder, Teacher, preacher. Mr. Caner has a clever tongue, but does his speech reveal his heart, thus disqualify his Eldership. What struck me was his repeated reference to fighting or wanting to fight people, Eric Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789049874227384621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-14767326124159154172010-05-31T04:13:30.336+01:002010-05-31T04:13:30.336+01:00Turetinfan, yes I was born in Turkey and came to t...Turetinfan, yes I was born in Turkey and came to the US at the age of 8. I may not speak the language quite as someone who grew up in the country and who had more schooling, yet I can read the language and translate from it. Remember that most mass-read is on a very low scale as the article shows. Not complicated, yet the cultural perspectives are nuanced as with any other language.I translated gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17862609381423776524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-30001710310720649672010-05-31T00:17:34.627+01:002010-05-31T00:17:34.627+01:00Just continuing with Mr. Willis' words: "...Just continuing with Mr. Willis' words: " "Dr. Caner seems to find it much easier to stick with the truth when he is working in Turkish.....".<br /><br />I have been listening to the Thomas Road's archive messages of Dr. Caner.<br /><br />Again, when listening to a series he did in July of 2007, on the evening of July 15 about mid way through the message Dr. Caner gives Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-66524026503566021902010-05-30T21:52:35.494+01:002010-05-30T21:52:35.494+01:00gypsyrose:
Are you a native speaker of Turkish? ...gypsyrose:<br /><br />Are you a native speaker of Turkish? I ask this, because I assume I will get the same question from others if I reference your translation of this article.<br /><br />-TurretinFanTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-30750682374066572662010-05-30T21:41:07.283+01:002010-05-30T21:41:07.283+01:00Bennett Willis said:
"Dr. Caner seems to find...Bennett Willis said:<br />"Dr. Caner seems to find it much easier to stick with the truth when he is working in Turkish."<br /><br />The article states:<br /><br />Öncelikle, Ne Arapça biliyorlar, ne de babalarının dili olan Türkçeyi.<br /><br />First of all, they do not know Arabic or their father's language, Turkish.<br /><br />So the interviewer is saying "they" meaninggypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17862609381423776524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-4204798893742647302010-05-30T21:34:37.524+01:002010-05-30T21:34:37.524+01:00Mr. Willis
you wrote: "Dr. Caner seems to fi...Mr. Willis<br /><br />you wrote: "Dr. Caner seems to find it much easier to stick with the truth when he is working in Turkish.....".<br /><br />I have been going to Thomas Road's webpage and listening to all of the Dr. Caner messages there. I have noticed another trend. For instance in his April 8th, 2007 "layman" talk you get a glimpse of the "real" Ergun as heAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-27484096631807666622010-05-30T21:05:57.853+01:002010-05-30T21:05:57.853+01:00Dr. Caner seems to find it much easier to stick wi...Dr. Caner seems to find it much easier to stick with the truth when he is working in Turkish. The translation seems both correct and reasonable when compared with the documentation (other than many of Dr. Caner's contributions). Maybe he thought they would know if he embellished.Bennett Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200940136846753450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-14855789910971125432010-05-30T19:20:02.808+01:002010-05-30T19:20:02.808+01:00sorry the date is 6/13/2003sorry the date is 6/13/2003gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17862609381423776524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-85809269128362606672010-05-30T19:18:35.088+01:002010-05-30T19:18:35.088+01:00Part 3
* Kendinizi Türk olarak görüyor musunuz?
D...Part 3<br />* Kendinizi Türk olarak görüyor musunuz?<br /><br />Do you see yourself as a Turk?<br /><br />Caner: Evet, tabii ki baba tarafından Türk'üm. <br /><br />Of course, from my father's side I am Turkish<br /><br />Ailemin büyük kısmı İstanbul ve Ankara'da yaşamış.<br /><br />Most of my family has lived in Ankara or Istanbul<br /><br />Halen çoğu orada, ama 1969'da ABD'gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17862609381423776524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-6282608777897250062010-05-30T19:17:19.138+01:002010-05-30T19:17:19.138+01:00Part 2
Öncelikle, Ne Arapça biliyorlar, ne de baba...Part 2<br />Öncelikle, Ne Arapça biliyorlar, ne de babalarının dili olan Türkçeyi.<br /><br />First of all, they do not know Arabic or their father's language, Turkish.<br /><br />Başvuru kaynaklarının hepsi İngilizce ve bunların çoğu da üçüncü sınıf polemik kitapları. Herhangi bir İslam ülkesinde yaşadıklarına dair bir ipucu da yok.<br /><br />All their empirical data originates in English, gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17862609381423776524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-51757348895014218982010-05-30T19:13:54.135+01:002010-05-30T19:13:54.135+01:00This is the Turkish article I translated, notice t...This is the Turkish article I translated, notice the date is 6/13/2033<br /><br />http://haber.gazetevatan.com/haberdetay.asp?Newsid=10541&Categoryid=4&wid=73<br /><br /><br />Ruşen Çakır rcakir@gazetevatan.com 13.06.2003 <br /><br /><br />2 Türk rahip kardeş yazdıkları kitapla İslama'a bayrak açtı <br />The title says: 2 Turkish pastor brothers have declared war upon Islam<br /><br /gypsyrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17862609381423776524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-89369131156623039292010-05-30T05:39:33.799+01:002010-05-30T05:39:33.799+01:00Who knows for certain why those materials seem to ...Who knows for certain why those materials seem to disappear after you link to them... but if it's a matter of Canerites or Liberty U trying to remove evidence that he said various damning things, that would just be an awful shame. Isn't that what happened with Mohammed Khan's videos? That is not the right way to answer the issues! Thanks for your level-headed treatment of the issues StimMindhttp://www.stimulatedmind.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-52620701541921912162010-05-29T22:37:57.330+01:002010-05-29T22:37:57.330+01:00I think it would be pointlessI think it would be pointlessTurretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-61722369900641978302010-05-29T22:21:21.597+01:002010-05-29T22:21:21.597+01:00I wonder if anyone has tried to track down that &q...I wonder if anyone has tried to track down that "debate" he makes reference too he did in Scotland?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-22629964368914822902010-05-29T21:05:22.377+01:002010-05-29T21:05:22.377+01:00"Many wives" where? What U.S. state allo..."Many wives" where? What U.S. state allows bigamy? If Turkey, it's been illegal there for a long time; it was outlawed in 1926. Double-checking, though, I discovered that some in Turkey still surreptitiously fill up their Koranic quota of four wives:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/10/world/europe/10turkey.html?_r=1Frederickahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17071420764901945035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21597890.post-67905177863106594072010-05-29T19:24:10.026+01:002010-05-29T19:24:10.026+01:00I remember Emir Caner says on a recording that the...I remember Emir Caner says on a recording that their grandmother had a significant part in their raising. I believe it was in relation to her being in a nursing home and he says how could I leave the woman there who was involved in my raising.<br />-BigloAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com