4. There are, then, of the Old Testament, twenty-two books in number; for, as I have heard, it is handed down that this is the number of the letters among the Hebrews; their respective order and names being as follows. The first is Genesis, then Exodus, next Leviticus, after that Numbers, and then Deuteronomy. Following these there is Joshua, the son of Nun, then Judges, then Ruth. And again, after these four books of Kings, the first and second being reckoned as one book, and so likewise the third and fourth as one book. And again, the first and second of the Chronicles are reckoned as one book. Again Ezra, the first and second are similarly one book. After these there is the book of Psalms, then the Proverbs, next Ecclesiastes, and the Song of Songs. Job follows, then the Prophets, the twelve being reckoned as one book. Then Isaiah, one book, then Jeremiah with Baruch, Lamentations, and the epistle, one book; afterwards, Ezekiel and Daniel, each one book. Thus far constitutes the Old Testament.
5. Again it is not tedious to speak of the [books] of the New Testament. These are, the four Gospels, according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Afterwards, the Acts of the Apostles and Epistles (called Catholic), seven, viz. of James, one; of Peter, two; of John, three; after these, one of Jude. In addition, there are fourteen Epistles of Paul, written in this order. The first, to the Romans; then two to the Corinthians; after these, to the Galatians; next, to the Ephesians; then to the Philippians; then to the Colossians; after these, two to the Thessalonians, and that to the Hebrews; and again, two to Timothy; one to Titus; and lastly, that to Philemon. And besides, the Revelation of John.
6. These are fountains of salvation, that they who thirst may be satisfied with the living words they contain. In these alone is proclaimed the doctrine of godliness. Let no man add to these, neither let him take ought from these. For concerning these the Lord put to shame the Sadducees, and said, ‘Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures.’ And He reproved the Jews, saying, ‘Search the Scriptures, for these are they that testify of Me.’
7. But for greater exactness I add this also, writing of necessity; that there are other books besides these not indeed included in the Canon, but appointed by the Fathers to be read by those who newly join us, and who wish for instruction in the word of godliness. The Wisdom of Solomon, and the Wisdom of Sirach, and Esther, and Judith, and Tobit, and that which is called the Teaching of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. But the former, my brethren, are included in the Canon, the latter being [merely] read; nor is there in any place a mention of apocryphal writings. But they are an invention of heretics, who write them when they choose, bestowing upon them their approbation, and assigning to them a date, that so, using them as ancient writings, they may find occasion to lead astray the simple.
Saturday, May 17, 2014
Responses to Miscellaneous Canon Questions and Objections
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1) If it can be wrong it begs the question of how to find out the correct list.
ReplyDelete2) The New Testament is not written in Hebrew. The Greek-ification of Jews didn't start with Paul.
The Wisdom of Solomon contains obvious messianic prophesies that came true. That's the usual test for scripture, whether its predictions come true.
Hippolytus, Cyprian, Ambrose, Origen, Eusebius, Augustine, accorded it canonicity.
It seems to be in all copies of the LXX, which was inherited from the Jews and is indicative of what at least some Jews probably considered scripture.
3) Assumes something not in evidence, namely that the Jews were monolithic (including the Samatitans!!).
4) Early Christians said "search the scriptures too", when their canon lists clearly differed substantially. In other words, this argument has no substance.
5) Unless you reject the NT, clearly the canon wasn't closed, and any argument that it was closed is un-Christian.
6) Are we to believe that Jesus and so forth believed the canon was closed and fixed, and would therefore reject additions like the Gospels?
7) I don't see how it undercuts (3). And reliance on them is bigger than many of the so-called proto books. If there is anything bad here for the so-called deteros, it is even worse for some of the protos.
8) The same radical skepticism would deny the significance of 90% of the proto references in the NT. When a writer intersperses references to the protos and the deuteros seamlessly, it means something.
9) The deuteros "tend to be omitted"?? This assumes what you want to prove that there are two sets of books, the "protos" and the "deuteros" and that we can treat each set as a group, where "One in, all in. One out, all out". But this very quote from Athanasius shows this is not so. If you want to argue that any particular book is in or out, you will have to fight it out building by building, street by street.