Friday, November 06, 2009

Frank Turk and the Concession Speech

This article by Frank Turk on the gospel is worth the 2-3 minutes it takes to read it (link). I'm not saying I agree with every last jot and tittle of what he writes, but the main points he makes are the main points that need to be made, especially to the folks with whom he's dealing. He's responding to some extent both to Broad Path Evangelicalism and to Roman Catholicism in the same post.

3 comments:

natamllc said...

I suppose the usage of the word shibboleth comes from here?

Jdg 12:4 Then Jephthah gathered all the men of Gilead and fought with Ephraim. And the men of Gilead struck Ephraim, because they said, "You are fugitives of Ephraim, you Gileadites, in the midst of Ephraim and Manasseh."
Jdg 12:5 And the Gileadites captured the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. And when any of the fugitives of Ephraim said, "Let me go over," the men of Gilead said to him, "Are you an Ephraimite?" When he said, "No,"
Jdg 12:6 they said to him, "Then say Shibboleth," and he said, "Sibboleth," for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and slaughtered him at the fords of the Jordan. At that time 42,000 of the Ephraimites fell.

I would need a little help connecting the dots after reading the article and using that as a standard here? I don't see the biblical connection as it is being used in the article with this requirement as their standard in Judges 12?

Can you explain that for me?

thanks

Turretinfan said...

Good question, NatAmLLC. His usage does seem a little off. My best guess is that Mr. Turk was just referring to the term as it has come to be a part of the mainstream vocabulary.

You are right, though. The passage you provided is whence the word "shibboleth" derives.

What is Mr. Turk trying to say? When he wrote, "we want to use the name of Jesus as the shibboleth of our point of view," I think he meant something like "we want to consider everyone who says 'I believe in Jesus' to be Christians." But if they cannot say "I believe in Jesus," then they won't be considered Christians.

natamllc said...

I am not disputing here. I am saying the argument weakens even more for me because demons believe Jesus is the Christ and tremble and they ain't no Christian! :)

I do see your explanation and thought as much as that might be the standard.

Both points are well taken and I am glad, to say the least, there are souls such as yours to be sharpened by!

Thanks for answer my question, TF!