I think I was fairly clear earlier:There are several responses:the Biblical answer to the injustices of the world and injustice of governments is the Second Coming, not a return to the punishments of the Mosaic Law (theonomy), or enforcing true religion by the sword (theocracy). And because a desire for the state to punish sinners in this life for not following our religion is in conflict with our calling to reach sinners with the gospel, by Biblical command the church’s only mandate concerning unbelievers....As you are aware, in the Spanish Inquisition, the RC church and Spanish monarchy put what they considered blasphemers to death. I am saying that is wrong in itself, not just wrong when the wrong guys do it.
a) If it is really wrong in itself, why was it not wrong for Old Testament Israel?
b) If as to (a) one appeals to an "intrusion ethic" that governed Israel, where does Scripture teach this?
c) How is punishing sinners for not "following our religion" (by the civil magistrate) in conflict with our calling to reach sinners with the gospel?
d) How is punishing sinners for not "following our religion" as to honoring God's name, title, attributes, ordinances, words and works in conflict with such a calling but punishing them for not "following our religion" as to honoring father and mother, not killing, not stealing, and not committing adultery not in conflict?
P.S. I should point out that earlier in the same thread, Todd had indeed relied on the Klinean intrusion ethic approach:
Why are we so dead set against the state enforcing the first Table? Our early forefathers notwithstanding, the Biblical answer to the injustices of the world and injustice of governments is the Second Coming, not a return to the punishments of the Mosaic Law, or enforcing true religion by the sword.But this answer is patently false and contrary to Romans 13. Moreover, this argument on its own terms cannot differentiate between the first and second table. Finally, it remains unestablished that the Mosaic punishments represent an intrusion of the eschaton.