Friday, January 03, 2014

iTBN Contributions - Ergun Caner

For a full list of iTBN appearances, see the following link (Link). Apparently, Dr. Ergun Caner was a guest on a series of episodes of "The King is Coming," with Dr. Ed Hindson, and also on a previous show hosted by Pastor Jentezen Franklin. The most disappointing comments are from that last show, but I've posted a short synopsis, below.

The King Is Coming with Dr. Ed Hindson, "The Coming Islamic Caliphate" (apparent date, May 19, 2013):
Starting around 8 minutes in, Ergun Caner describes Islamic eschatology.

At one point, Caner claims: "Mohammed borrowed from a lot of different books - gospel of Barnabas, it's a fake book and others."

It's impossible that Mohammed borrowed from the "Gospel of Barnabas," because it is a late medieval forgery - around 500 years after Mohammed. He probably did borrow from a variety of sources, as described in James White's book on the Quran.

At another point, Caner states: "Can you imagine what it was like for me as a young boy, reading this through the Bible and going, Mohammed confused Jesus for the two witnesses of Revelation 11."

It is nice to see Caner seemingly placing his introduction to Christianity as being when he was a "young boy."

The King Is Coming with Dr. Ed Hindson, "The Rise Of The Antichrist" (apparent date, March 17, 2013):
Around 9 minutes in, Ergun Caner interviews Hindson regarding others' guesses at the identity of the Antichrist and then regarding whether Islam could be the Great Whore of Babylon.

The King Is Coming with Dr. Ed Hindson, "Hell On Earth" (apparent date, March 3, 2013):
Starting around 16 minutes in, Ergun Caner describes Islamic eschatology. This seems to be the same eschatological discussion as in the first clip, above.

The King Is Coming with Dr. Ed Hindson, "The Coming Islamic Caliphate" (apparent date, September 11, 2011):
This appears to be essentially the same presentation that was later replayed on May 19, 2013.

The King Is Coming with Dr. Ed Hindson, "Armageddon" (apparent date, August 14, 2011):

Around 22 minutes in, Ergun Caner describes the importance of seeking salvation by grace, not works.

The King Is Coming with Dr. Ed Hindson, "Hell on Earth" (apparent date, July 10, 2011:
This appears to be essentially the same presentation that was later replayed on March 3, 2013.

"Praise the Lord," (apparent date, June 29, 2004):

Around 40 minutes in, Ergun Caner gives an abbreviated version of his life story. He includes the following:
"Most of the time, when I speak, and most of the time when I am out, I'm speaking to hostile crowds. I am - as a processor, and writer, and such - I debate in universities and college campuses and debate Muslims, and Bahai and Buddhists, Hindus - muezzin, an ulema - different groups - and in these debates, I mean, I spend most of my time getting yelled at."

Where is any example of Caner getting yelled at? Where are these supposed debates?

A little later, he states (around 47:15): "Look at me, Turkish, came to America, learned your language. I'm the guy they pick out of line on every plane."

Technically, I guess this is true. But considering he was a toddler when he came, does it convey the right impression?

Around 49:15, Caner discusses his grandma's approach to discipline, which supposedly involved "knock out" and "black out" but not "time out."

This seems to refer to Caner being raised by his Swedish grandmother.

Around 51:30, Caner states: "I spent 18 years of my life assuming you hated me. I spent 18 years of my life assuming that we were at war with one another. We moved to America to build mosques. And the Christians I ran into didn't hate me. They loved me in spite of me. And as soon as I got saved, I lost all my family."

According to his current story, he became a Christian in 1982, making him 15 or 16.

Around 52:00, Caner continues: "They didn't make fun my accent."

What accent? How would someone raised in Ohio have a noticeable accent to other Ohio kids?

Around 54:30, Caner continues: "Why are they hitting the water with sticks? Snakes. Somebody should have told me. What you puttin' a Turk in the middle of the water with snakes. I don't know about snakes. Sand, I can handle. What's the snakes for."

Did Caner ever live any place that is sandy? There may be some desert areas in Turkey, but is it a particularly sandy place?

Around 57:00, Caner continues: "We cry out, 'Abba - father' he said. It is a term of intimacy. In my language and culture, it's papa."

The Turkish and Arabic equivalent of "papa" or "daddy" is "baba." But are either of those languages Caner's language? Interestingly, the Swedish equivalent of "daddy" is - in fact - "pappa."

Around 58:45, Caner continues: "I've lived under three systems: socialism and fascism and democracy. Trust me, democracy works."

I suppose you could say that Sweden is socialistic, but what fascist government did he live under? Even if he was for some brief period of time in Turkey, was that a fascist government when he was there? And why would we trust the experience of a toddler?

Caner immediately continues: "I've lived where they voted for me, I've lived where there was only one candidate, but I live in a land now, where I have a voice."

Where are these places Caner has in mind? Does he mean people voted for him when he was a toddler or infant?

Around 59:00, Caner continues: "Here I am a Muslim background, Christian believer - Turk - immigrant - Persian"

I wonder whether Caner would still claim to be Persian today. Recall that on another program, he claimed he was not Persian (link).

Probably the most saddening part was when Caner tries to proclaim the gospel to Muslims around 1 hour and 3 or 4 minutes into the show. He throws out "Isa bin Allah - Jesus is God."


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