Monday, May 17, 2010

Ergun Caner's Autobiography per the AP


The AP reports:
[Ergun Caner] told The Associated Press in 2002 that he was born in Sweden to a Turkish father and Swedish mother, who brought the family to Ohio in 1969, when he was about 3 years old.
(source)(see full AP article from 2002)

Compare Caner's autobiography here: (link to mp3) where he states: "Coming to America, the only thing that I understood, I was fifteen when we came, the only thing - or - thirteen when we came, the only thing that I understood about American culture, I got from American television. And the only television that we were allowed to watch was the television that was - that passed the conscriptions of the censors in Turkey. I lived in Ankara, but then I lived toward the east for the most part of my life, on the Iraqi border." (Apologetics of the Bible, Islam - podcast, about 10 minutes into the mp3)

- TurretinFan

(image from 1982-83 yearbook, Ergun Caner as a junior in high school illustrating what was at that time considered a "punk haircut" according to the yearbook)

7 comments:

Lockheed said...

"His brother Emir, also a Christian convert and scholar, responded in a brief e-mail that he has not decided whether to speak publicly."

Yikes!

Vigilantius said...

And the evidence keeps mounting... This is truly a sad situation. If only Caner would have been truthful from the beginning.

natamllc said...

I have listened to this before, but this time I heard something new. He left me with an impression that he is a haj because he took the trip to Mecca, which every male is to take at least once in their lifetime.

He is talking about the Hadith, he is making a point about jihad, that his madras youth group were not known like the new kids on the rock; it is at that point in the talk, there, that I have this impression that he is saying "he" has made the Mecca trek and he is now, also a Haj??

Am I imagining to much into that portion? I know that he emphasized that we are to "know" these things. By the way he lays the foundation for this it is as if he wants you to believe he has made the trip to Mecca, that he was a holy warrior too?

It is just a new sense that came over me when listening to this talk again today.

Things he has said do seem to now begin to pop, like popcorn in a microwave, through the mainstream media with AP running the story line.

Where is this one going to end up?

I just don't have a good feeling in my guts anymore that the outcome to this is going to bring God Glory!

Enterprise24 said...

As I posted on my FB wall: "You see folks: this is why personal integrity is important: Sin will be found out, and instead of the Christian suffering for righteousness sake, he will suffer for his own sin and thus profane the name of Christ amongst the nations."

That pretty much sums up my thoughts on the Ergun Caner situation. Ergun should take heed of Peter's words in his first canonical epistle:

"14 If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.
15 If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler.
16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
18 And, 'If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?'
19 So then, those who suffer according to God's will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good." - 1 Peter 4

Gordan said...

The AP best watch it or P. Lumpkins will start a website dedicated to paying them back for their baseless attack.

Coram Deo said...

And the story continues to gain secular media attention, this article is from a local news outlet in Lynchburg, VA.

It's time to come clean, Ergun, or as they say in Virginia, to "fess up".

In Christ,
CD

gary dilworth said...

Slightly off topic. There is an article appearing today on Drudge about Attorney General Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut. The journalist is revealing all the lies, colorings of truth, and embellishments this man does about his (factually nonexistent) service in Vietnam. Blumenthal says he "misspeaks" (quite a bit apparently). http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html